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brianj12,

I am not talking about my advises :). You can critic them as much as you want, it does not bother me at all.

I am talking about the original topic starter, 99% of posts just tell her that she did everything wrong and it is horrible :). How many actual advises on what she can do NOW did she receive? Maybe, let's count? I remember only one, that is to have as good pet insurance as possible.

Did you count more? Maybe somebody will be able to actually create a list of all useful advises that people here provided on the topic? I think it will be great!

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Actually, I think Brian needs to stop responding to this thread. He offers nothing but ill thought out insults posing as "but, I'm a nice guy, really", while too wrapped up in sanctimonious crap to realise how transparent it really is.

And even now continues to insult my intelligence under the guise of also insulting the first person who attempted to help rather than make me feel like ****.

Please stop. I feel bad enough. You are not helping. Have the grace to leave this one alone

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Gosh... All this in 24 hours....





For the record, I remember you and your old posts Linden. I followed your story of Pipey... In fact, I am the last poster on it!

I also do not blame you or think you are stupid for this situation. I do, however, disagree with the breeder and her intentions (and the thoughts of your vet). I posted as I felt very strongly that this is not in the best interests of the cat. It only serves as a bonus to the breeder really. It will cause your cat stress, she may deal with it ok. But should she have to is the problem I have. I do not blame you at all but I cannot agree with the breeder on this at all. I read your post and just had to reply, from my holiday in sunny Thailand!! That is how strongly I felt. This is a great situation for the breeder, it means they can expand their breeding programme beyond their physical space. Using the argument that it's better than raising in cages is not fair, because only irresponsible breeders breed kittens in small cages.

I breed, although relatively new (and not bengals). I have two queens. One gets sooooooo stressed at stud and will easily fall out of call when taken. I have to handle the situation carefully. She is actually now neutered after her third litter. She went everywhere with me, to visit family etc... Initially. But she hated being moved around. Hated it! She is a home girl! That said, she was a lazy mom and would not mind who cared for her kittens really! My other queen is a daughter from my original queen that I kept. She, in contrast, is not spooked by anything. She loves me most of all but is happy to have any attention, from anyone. That said, when she went into labour this year she needed me. Not my husband. Me. And after they were born she growled at anybody and every cat, except me and her mom. She HATED my neutered boys. I just know she would have been so stressed in a strange place.

So now I just have one queen. She had her kittens 31/8/13 and they left here in 7/12/13. Since then she has called 8 times! I am going to have to mate her when I get home from my holiday on her next call because she is at risk of infection from constant calling, she also doesn't eat well so loses condition with every call! She is VERY annoying when calling! She annoys all the neutered cats. Tries to escape all the time... And is VERY loud at nighttime! Luckily Tonkinese are not big sprayers so I don't have that issue...

I know you want advice to help make this workable, I just don't know what to advise really. I just feel quite bad for you and your cat.... Whilst on paper it sounds ideal especially as a vet and the breeder advise it to be great for the mommy cats. Part of the selling point, so to speak, is that she knows her forever home now and so will be less stressed when neutered and rehomed. The problem I have with this is that often breeding girls once neutered, become unhappy in a breeding home and so rehoming is less stressful for them. It also seems rather contradictory to save her one moments of stress at the end of her breeding career by putting her in a minimum of 4 stressful pregnancies back and forth from you to the breeder... If you know what I mean.

Yes cats get put in Catteries and taken places all the time. But this is often stressful for them and a short term thing. Some cats adapt well, others do not. Bengals tend to be more stress than most other breeds as well.

All the suggestions about taking her scratching post, litter tray etc. with her are not very practical because they pose a huge risk to the breeder regrading infection risks... As clean as every home is, there will be stuff normal in your house that is not normal in the breeders house and vice versa....

I guess the only thing you can do now is be very mindful of the potential problems and, if you detect any hint of undue stress put a stop to it all.....





Worth mentioning. Two of my kittens last year went to a home with one of my kittens from the year before. I visited them all 1 month after the youngest two left me. They still recognised my voice and came running, purring to me... Which was great! I visited them two weeks ago and they didn't know who I was. They are now 6 months old. The older one is now 18 months and doesn't recognise me at all.... So your girl may not remember the breeder so she may not be comfortable around her.....

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I meant to add, I'm so sorry about Linden... Reading between the lines, I'm kind of assuming that you also lost Pipey and I'm so very sorry for your loss, please forgive me if I've jumped to the wrong conclusions.

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And now, because it is 3am, and I haven't slept in a few days, and I don't need to feel capable of using my brain on Saturday, or getting up and getting my child to school, I will hopefully not be responding further tonight as I'm off to seek chemically assisted sleep.

Please be kind to each other. I, for one, have had enough. I can't imagine this has been fun for anyone.

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