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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:26 pm 
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Hello everyone, I'm hoping you can advise.

In March, our naughty boy swallowed a cat toy and needed emergency care. A subsequent ultrasound found many cysts on both kidneys, and a few on his liver. He was given a diagnosis of polycystic kidney disease. He's turning 2 years old this February and not yet showing symptoms. Of course we are devastated.

I contacted our breeder, who assured me I was mistaken. I sent her all the documentation and the information that PKD was an inherited disorder. I asked her to have the stud and queen scanned.

This December, the same cats produced a new litter. I contacted her again to ask if she had scanned them, hopeful that we had received a misdiagnosis. She admitted she had not taken them to the vet to be tested, as it would disrupt the cattery, and that both cats were fine and not showing any symptoms. Furthermore, no other kitten has the disease so far, so she has no plans for any testing.

It's my understanding that symptoms may not arise for many years. These cats have been breeding for only a few years. She is an established, registered breeder who almost certainly has a stud or queen with PKD.

Am I mistaken in thinking she should have them both tested?

Thank you for any advice.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:43 pm 
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The great breeders have their queens and studs tested for everything. If they can "disrupt" the cattery, any breeder can do it. The issue is the cost of these tests. They are not cheap -- but they should be done. All it takes is a cotton swab and about $90. This is why owners need to do a lot of research before they select a breeder.

UC Davis Veterinary Medicine Genetics Laboratory usually does these tests. They will send a kit with the swabs that you use and you swab the cats and send the swabs in with the money and wait for the results.

Know, too, many breeders could put on their website that they do scan. However, they would be able to provide you with the test results.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:37 pm 
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Yes, they should absolutely be scanned and should no longer breed if they are carriers.
It's a huge shame if anyone is breeding cats who are known or even suspected carriers of genetic diseases.

Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do unless you have something in your contract other than just let people know about it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:37 pm 
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Bengal Kitten

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Sherry wrote:
UC Davis Veterinary Medicine Genetics Laboratory usually does these tests. They will send a kit with the swabs that you use and you swab the cats and send the swabs in with the money and wait for the results.


I'm not sure if we have those (I'm in Ontario). But I think for her it's not just cost, but denial.

ontariobengals wrote:
Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do unless you have something in your contract other than just let people know about it.


Well, this is my question: how do I let people know? She does have a Facebook page, and she has the new litter posted. I can leave a comment, but she will probably delete it and then ban me from commenting. Can I notify any of the cat associations? TICA? It is so upsetting to think that she is knowingly breeding cats with what is a preventable disease and putting other families through this heartache.

There is something in my contract about genetic diseases within the first 2 years--I can get another kitten from her, which I do not want.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:30 pm 
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Know that many Canadian breeders send their samples to the US to be tested! Thing is, you can't complain to TICA or TIBCS unless they are members. And I'm doubting this particular breeder is as they both recommend testing for the queens and sires. It is just a real shame. There are other "complaint" websites you can post on, which give the other person a chance to respond. But at least it gets it out there if someone googles the name -- those things come up.

Offering a health guarantee is great, except by the time most owners find something out, they are extremely bonded with the cat and have no desire to give the cat up for a new one.

Many owners do not do extensive research on breeders. They see a cat they want and get it! But, lesson learned and next time, you will be more diligent.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:57 am 
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She is actually a member of TICA, TIBCS, CCFC etc. and has an outstanding cattery certificate from TICA.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:30 pm 
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Hmm, then maybe these agencies need proof that the breeder is selling kittens with PKD. Do you mind saying the name of the cattery?


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